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the planets up the masters almost surely

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all right higher side chatters we've all

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heard the stories of Nikola Tesla and

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most well-known example in a series of

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brilliant minds whose work wandered in

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puppet masters and they end up regulated

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to the fringes of alternative history

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well today we're going to dig into just

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such a situation with a deep look into

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the life and work of dr. wilhelm reich

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just like Tesla the study of this

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establishment attacks and of course an

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unfortunate and untimely death and with

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amazing UFO and abduction researcher

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teenager and has been studying writing

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and authentic UFO whistleblower as well

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as left at Eastgate a first-hand account

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of the Brent waters Woodbridge UFO

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incident its cover-up an investigation

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and I couldn't be more pumped people

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Peter my man welcome to the higher side

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thank you it's good to be on absolutely

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man this is exciting thanks for being

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here Reich has come up in several other

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expert and it didn't take long for me to

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can start with an introduction to the

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life of Wright for people who might not

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that more later Gregg that it attracted

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UFO activity and Reich had the courage

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also had the privilege and pleasure of

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of its key findings challenge accepted

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suffering than enlightenment or

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lover and being so upset and so confused

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that literally all human neuroses at

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to play games with language now but at

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around Freud after Reich's departure

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feel that he was mentally ill well

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because he had left Freud in the

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Freudian circle surely that in itself

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was an indication of it I mean give me a

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break

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but at this point the so-called great

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social experiment going on in the Soviet

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Union yes it was totalitarian government

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yes it was the origins of modern

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communism but many people still held out

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hope that the revolution might evolve to

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become something of a genuine you know

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workers state with justice for all and

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all of that of course and nothing could

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have been further from the truth

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however it was right in that window of

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time that Reich this

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well the Communists are willing to allow

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me to do my work in a sponsored setting

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and so he joined the Austrian Communist

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Party in 1927 intending on marrying the

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revolutionary mission of their already

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existing mental health clinics which

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they had around the country to helping

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to restore healthy sexually functioning

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in couples in workers who were primarily

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uneducated factory people so these

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clinics were called sex pol simple

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hybrid word between sex and politics

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clinics and they were extended from

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Austria into Germany and into the Soviet

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Union and Reich began to work with the

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therapist that he trained in and

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directly working with workers in helping

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them restore what he termed a meaningful

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sexual equilibrium well horror of

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Horrors for the Communists as couples

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would actually begin to become what I

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would term emotionally healthier and

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build more and more of their lives on

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this wonderful thing at the center of

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their relationship a loving sexual

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reality their first concern shifted from

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production quotas and the revolutionary

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principles of the party and fulfilling

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their jobs as cogs in the great machine

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of scientific socialism to each other

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and to raising healthy happy children

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this caused the Communists to boot Reich

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out of the party and to extend the myth

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of his insanity because how could he

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possibly be a decent socialist human

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being and put individuals before the

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needs of society from that point on

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Reich became an avowed anti-communist

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and was expelled from the party

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officially in 1934 so where does this

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leave him now I'm bringing up a quote

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here to give our listeners

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sense of where this extraordinary man

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stood at this point in his life and this

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is the quote this is what I am fighting

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for the prevention of emotional human

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misery by the establishment of a normal

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and natural that is orgastic ly

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satisfying human life in the masses of

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people now I don't have to tell you

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Gregg that to any group or individuals

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intent on controlling the lives of

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others in any number of ways these are

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the words of a truly dangerous man right

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the party never forgave him for this and

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would go on to help to damage his

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reputation in a way almost to death

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later on in his life so driven from

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Austria then from Germany he emigrated

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to Norway and he did it just under the

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wire when I was deeply involved in

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studying his life history and had access

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in the 70s and primarily the 80s to a

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surprising number of people who knew him

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studied with Reich had been his patients

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students etc one of the stories that

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emerged was as he got through customs to

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emigrate to Norway

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it was literally within weeks of

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Hitler's having consolidated power in

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Germany and Stalin becoming more and

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more aware of how dangerous Reich was

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potentially to explaining the true

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dynamics of communism and both of these

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men knew who Reich was and wanted him

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dead and the story goes that as he was

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leaving Germany the customs official

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realized who he was and could at that

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point have had him arrested or detained

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ending up in a camp and a footnote to

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history and that customs official for

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whatever number of reasons turned the

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other way and dr. Reich got out in

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Norway aided by a core group of

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colleagues he devoted

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much of is at work and study - the

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dynamics of cancer formation let me jump

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out for a moment here and observe that

382
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for most people who have heard dr.

383
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reicks name they've heard it you know

384
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maybe on a radio show like yours or in a

385
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documentary or they've read something

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about him in an article or somebody's

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book or you know heard somebody give a

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lecture on him but the great number of

389
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people who know his name have never read

390
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a single word of any book that he ever

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wrote or any of the hundreds of articles

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or monographs he ever wrote he was an

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incredibly prolific writer and there at

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the time of his death in 1957 there were

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some tens of thousands of pages of

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unpublished material in his estate I

397
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don't know how many of his books have

398
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been published 20 or more certainly but

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it was at this time that his outstanding

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books the impulsive character character

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analysis people in trouble the mass

402
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psychology of fascism and the cancer by

403
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APPA 'they were all written during this

404
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period and considering the work he was

405
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doing in getting to some of the

406
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essentials of cancer formation this with

407
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the understanding of course that there

408
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are certain kinds of cancers that are

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environmental hereditary and caused by

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other factors but there are other

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cancers that are aided by or have

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emotionally-driven

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basis that the resignation of the human

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bioenergetics system the character

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logically breathing more shallowly for

416
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most of your life and making parts of

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your body more oxygen starved than

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others will create sites where cancer

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loves to attach itself and form in

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norway again people who heard about his

421
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work but did not educate themselves to

422
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it laypeople people of science alike

423
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began to wonder about this guy and a

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rather nasty

425
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Payne emerged in the press kind of a

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sign of signs to come of the terrible

427
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campaign against him in the American

428
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press and the late 40s and into the 50s

429
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but in 1939 dr. Reich was invited to

430
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join the Faculty of New York City's new

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School for Social Research and so in 40

432
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he emigrated to the United States where

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he settled in Forest Hills Queens a then

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very quiet district of the borough where

435
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I was born in New York City and it's

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here that he established a private

437
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practice he continued his writing he

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refined his character analytic therapy

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as he called it at the time and

440
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energetic functioning in people was now

441
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his primary interest and his key efforts

442
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directed toward I can best say

443
00:21:43,540 --> 00:21:39,530
dissolving the chronic muscular

444
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contractions in his patients and I think

445
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for anybody whether or not this kind of

446
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:48,620
work is familiar for you or not

447
00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:52,130
visualize yourself growing up or

448
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somebody else and at a certain point

449
00:22:03,040 --> 00:21:58,250
they experienced a very rough period or

450
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a tragedy or a totally traumatic moment

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or time in their life we withdraw to our

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core in a way we we shut down we we're

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00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:12,980
aspire less we become more defensive

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actually and physiologically and when

455
00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:20,390
these things happen and you become more

456
00:22:25,419 --> 00:22:22,760
resigned to a well who's ever really

457
00:22:28,210 --> 00:22:25,429
happy in life who really has an ecstatic

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sex life whose dreams ever really come

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true I guess it's just a matter of

460
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settling and you know who's ever really

461
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happy and what does the word mean anyway

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and I think I need more starchy and

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sugary foods and to watch more

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television and just get real with the

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world that we do create physical armor

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in our musculature that it sort of

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reestablished itself it sets in it holds

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us in place in the kind of therapy that

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Reich

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designed which is I think absolutely

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brilliant and not to be confused with

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many of the so-called reichian

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techniques but medical or gone through P

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per se is about attacking and breaking

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down this musculature Armour and

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allowing people to respire at a deeper

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level to become enraged if you know

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they've kind of lost the ability to be

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angry and it's very important for a

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healthy person to be angry anyway these

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were the main things that he was

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involved in at this point in his work

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and then in his laboratory work in

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looking for a possible way to measure or

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calibrate what he called orgone energy

486
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he developed a very simple device let me

487
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also say here that the term orgone

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energy

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is a generic term it's about the sea of

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energy in which we live that animates

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all living things

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the Hindus called it the prana the

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00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:08,100
Victorians called it the ether but it's

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been given different names but it's not

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some weird thing that he came up with

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it's simply the way he identified it

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scientifically the apparatus that he

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created is called the orgone energy

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accumulator his other term for it was

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the ORAC and I forget what the acronym

501
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was but the orgone energy accumulator is

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often referred to as an organ box which

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to anybody involved in the work is

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somewhat demeaning and insulting and an

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00:24:49,790 --> 00:24:44,460
improper term what the accumulator does

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00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:49,800
is that by a very simple method so

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simple that official science has

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rejected it and never bothered to

509
00:25:02,240 --> 00:24:58,050
replicate rikes tests proving his point

510
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that it does focus and intensify energy

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it's simply layers of organic and

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inorganic material in a box like form it

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can be as big as a shoebox which you

514
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could use for seed germination or other

515
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experimental uses or as large as say a

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old-fashioned phone booth that you can

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sit in reich built and designed a room

518
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:30,810
on his property in maine later in life

519
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:33,930
to function as an accumulator and I know

520
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:37,890
dr. James DeMaio who runs the organ by a

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physical research laboratory which

522
00:25:45,740 --> 00:25:42,750
anybody can google and learn more about

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00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:45,750
and I should say it's up in the

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Northeast closer to you that a North

525
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West closer to you than me the organ

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biophysical research laboratory

527
00:25:59,560 --> 00:25:56,340
you can also google Oh be RL or the

528
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Green Springs laboratory just outside of

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00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:03,150
beautiful Ashland Oregon dr. DiMaio

530
00:26:08,490 --> 00:26:06,840
has also built a room in which there are

531
00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:08,500
separate accumulators but the

532
00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:10,420
room itself is an accumulator so how do

533
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:15,720
they work organic material holds energy

534
00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:25,260
whether it's wood or clay or cotton

535
00:26:32,220 --> 00:26:27,900
inorganic material reflects energy

536
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:32,230
whether it's sheet metal or screening or

537
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:35,710
steel wool so you could build an

538
00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:41,850
accumulator out of layers of plywood and

539
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:46,030
steel wool or out of layers of Homa so

540
00:26:52,170 --> 00:26:49,330
that kind of heavy gauge board that you

541
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:52,180
can buy at a lumberyard and cotton

542
00:27:00,600 --> 00:26:57,970
batting or out of pine panels and the

543
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:00,610
sheet metal the strength of an

544
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:02,950
accumulator is determined by the number

545
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of layers this summer when I was in

546
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:09,220
Greece staying with a good friend after

547
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:12,510
the conference I spoke at she had a

548
00:27:18,140 --> 00:27:15,850
accumulator that you could sit in that I

549
00:27:23,490 --> 00:27:18,150
believe was 12 layers of alternating

550
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:23,500
metal and wood the metallic layer as I

551
00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:26,320
recall needs to be on the inside the

552
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:28,750
organic layer yup on the outside and

553
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:31,330
when you sit in one of these devices

554
00:27:37,770 --> 00:27:33,250
which I've been doing on and off since I

555
00:27:39,870 --> 00:27:37,780
was in my 20s and you relax depending on

556
00:27:41,730 --> 00:27:39,880
how light sensitive it is many of them

557
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:41,740
have openings you know for air as you

558
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:44,110
can see out of or maybe in a completely

559
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:47,200
dark environment you begin to feel a

560
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:49,570
slight tingling on your skin a slightly

561
00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:51,730
elevated sense of energy in your body

562
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:54,760
and if it's in complete darkness you

563
00:28:01,860 --> 00:27:57,820
will ultimately see what right called

564
00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:01,870
spinning waves these tiny little endless

565
00:28:06,390 --> 00:28:04,660
particles of light that will just spin

566
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:06,400
like a corkscrew for a second and then

567
00:28:12,330 --> 00:28:09,970
disappear we see similar things if we

568
00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:12,340
allow ourselves to kind of get past our

569
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:15,550
grown-up conditioning and let's say lie

570
00:28:21,650 --> 00:28:18,610
on your back on the grass in a quiet

571
00:28:24,530 --> 00:28:21,660
area and look up at the sky

572
00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:24,540
as children we see these things

573
00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:26,550
automatically that the sky is filled

574
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:28,500
with energy when you bring it to the

575
00:28:32,990 --> 00:28:30,930
attention of an adult they will explain

576
00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:33,000
to you that you are seeing things or

577
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:35,940
that it's just some this or that but not

578
00:28:40,850 --> 00:28:39,450
actual real energy in the sky when it

579
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:40,860
really is hmm

580
00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:43,520
again the size of the accumulators

581
00:28:50,540 --> 00:28:47,580
really determines their power but they

582
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:50,550
do work and it is a real scientific

583
00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:53,490
principle however because they don't

584
00:28:58,220 --> 00:28:55,860
plug into anything because they don't

585
00:29:00,440 --> 00:28:58,230
have a motor attached to them because

586
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:00,450
they don't run on some kind of chemical

587
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:02,970
thing they have simply been dismissed

588
00:29:09,860 --> 00:29:06,510
outright as quackery by establishment

589
00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:09,870
science and as we see with the ridicule

590
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,260
factor in UFO studies is a very similar

591
00:29:18,370 --> 00:29:15,360
one here and one could argue the same

592
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:18,380
for some of the brilliant nikola tesla's

593
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:21,150
discoveries and findings during his

594
00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:25,770
lifetime but for that kind of mind the

595
00:29:29,930 --> 00:29:28,500
mantra is it can't be therefore it isn't

596
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:29,940
therefore it's something else

597
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:32,490
and it's obvious that this guy was some

598
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:34,890
kind of sex quack who believed in

599
00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:37,530
hocus-pocus alternate energy and flying

600
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:40,500
saucers and in that sense is easy to

601
00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:42,240
dismiss I guess the point I'm trying to

602
00:29:49,790 --> 00:29:45,150
make here is for any of you folks

603
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:49,800
listening to this radio show and you

604
00:29:54,740 --> 00:29:52,650
know greg has an amazing history as a

605
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:54,750
broadcaster and bringing topics to the

606
00:29:59,660 --> 00:29:57,090
public attention which are certainly

607
00:30:01,760 --> 00:29:59,670
outsider topics for most of you I hope

608
00:30:03,860 --> 00:30:01,770
this will be at the least an interesting

609
00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:03,870
couple of hours of radio mm-hmm but

610
00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:05,880
there will be some of you who will say

611
00:30:10,340 --> 00:30:08,700
hmm I have heard about dr. Reich's work

612
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,350
I've heard different things about him

613
00:30:14,570 --> 00:30:11,760
but you know what I am one of those

614
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:14,580
people who has never actually read any

615
00:30:22,010 --> 00:30:18,330
of his books maybe I should read a book

616
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:22,020
or two by him and see if this work is as

617
00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:24,810
engaging for me as it seems to be for

618
00:30:29,810 --> 00:30:27,870
Peter Robbins here and start to learn

619
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:29,820
more about it and see if this is

620
00:30:35,539 --> 00:30:32,730
something that I could value and learn

621
00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:35,549
from and gain a fuller half

622
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:37,830
your life from and that is something I

623
00:30:44,379 --> 00:30:41,279
encourage any one of your listeners to

624
00:30:47,419 --> 00:30:44,389
do more about the energy though because

625
00:30:50,570 --> 00:30:47,429
orgone energy as identified by Reich

626
00:30:52,909 --> 00:30:50,580
didn't follow or doesn't follow all the

627
00:30:56,239 --> 00:30:52,919
normal laws of you know like ac/dc

628
00:30:59,690 --> 00:30:56,249
current and more conventional energetic

629
00:31:02,210 --> 00:30:59,700
sources that were familiar with unlike

630
00:31:04,220 --> 00:31:02,220
conventional energy systems we are

631
00:31:07,369 --> 00:31:04,230
customed to thinking in terms of in

632
00:31:08,509 --> 00:31:07,379
which like electrical conventional

633
00:31:12,019 --> 00:31:08,519
electrical energy

634
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:12,029
the energetic potential moves from the

635
00:31:17,090 --> 00:31:14,100
stronger system or the source to the

636
00:31:19,729 --> 00:31:17,100
weaker one organ energy flows from the

637
00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:19,739
weaker system to the stronger and that's

638
00:31:26,269 --> 00:31:23,190
very important to keep in mind again

639
00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:26,279
Reich is now it's the early 1940s he's

640
00:31:32,749 --> 00:31:29,190
living and working in this quiet borough

641
00:31:36,649 --> 00:31:32,759
of New York City and he is continuing

642
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:36,659
his experiments which he hopes will in a

643
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:38,850
scientific way in a laboratory setting

644
00:31:44,899 --> 00:31:42,450
allow him to isolate and confirm the

645
00:31:47,779 --> 00:31:44,909
reality of this kind of energy he's also

646
00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:47,789
aware of the controversy an announcement

647
00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:50,039
of such a discovery might create in

648
00:31:55,789 --> 00:31:53,460
conventional scientific circles so he

649
00:31:59,419 --> 00:31:55,799
continues to verify his findings without

650
00:32:03,009 --> 00:31:59,429
seeking or public acknowledgement or

651
00:32:06,259 --> 00:32:03,019
other official scientific verifications

652
00:32:09,310 --> 00:32:06,269
now one of the experiments he develops

653
00:32:11,899 --> 00:32:09,320
and it's one that as a layperson I

654
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,909
replicated many years ago and that's

655
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:13,679
another exciting thing about Reich

656
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:16,559
scientific work that he makes certain

657
00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:19,769
claims and with rare exceptions anybody

658
00:32:26,349 --> 00:32:23,100
who studies the work and who has even

659
00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:26,359
the most basic sense of conducting an

660
00:32:32,029 --> 00:32:29,100
experiment which you don't need you know

661
00:32:34,909 --> 00:32:32,039
even a high school education to do you

662
00:32:38,690 --> 00:32:34,919
can verify for yourselves the results of

663
00:32:46,490 --> 00:32:42,860
this one which he named t o- t was

664
00:32:49,060 --> 00:32:46,500
calculated to measure the actual heat

665
00:32:51,890 --> 00:32:49,070
differential inside of an organ

666
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:51,900
accumulator when compared with an

667
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,110
identical size control box now for some

668
00:33:00,920 --> 00:32:57,120
people this is like ho-hum stuff for me

669
00:33:04,340 --> 00:33:00,930
it was terribly exciting to think wow if

670
00:33:07,910 --> 00:33:04,350
this is true then not only does it show

671
00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:07,920
in scientific terms what I experience

672
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:10,350
when I sit in an accumulator and what

673
00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:12,600
other people have reported as well but

674
00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:15,480
it does it in a way that official

675
00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:17,220
science would really have to contend

676
00:33:23,630 --> 00:33:21,480
with and in fact he does create this

677
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:23,640
experiment and replicates it

678
00:33:29,510 --> 00:33:26,490
successfully on a number of occasions as

679
00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:29,520
do colleagues of his following the exact

680
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:32,760
same series of protocols again it would

681
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:35,760
be about building a small orgone energy

682
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:38,130
accumulator X number of layers of

683
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:39,930
organic and inorganic material but

684
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:42,690
nothing else going on with it and a

685
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:45,600
control box the exact same size and

686
00:33:51,770 --> 00:33:48,450
dimension each with a thermometer

687
00:33:54,860 --> 00:33:51,780
inserted in a prescribed way to read on

688
00:33:57,380 --> 00:33:54,870
a daily basis so he fulfills these

689
00:34:00,410 --> 00:33:57,390
experiments and then we come to a rather

690
00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:00,420
remarkable moment in his life in history

691
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:03,270
where in December of 1940 he sends a

692
00:34:08,540 --> 00:34:05,490
carefully worded letter about his work

693
00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:08,550
specifically focusing in on the teo- T

694
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:11,160
experiment to dr. Albert Einstein

695
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:13,470
arguably the best known scientist in the

696
00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:17,040
world at this time the actual letter

697
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:20,460
Greg written in German says in part and

698
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:22,770
I'm quoting here several years ago I

699
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:25,650
discovered a specific biological energy

700
00:34:30,220 --> 00:34:28,170
which in many ways behaves differently

701
00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:30,230
from anything that is known about

702
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:32,700
electromagnetic energy the matter is too

703
00:34:37,790 --> 00:34:35,370
complicated and sounds too improbable

704
00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:37,800
to be explained clearly in a brief

705
00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:40,710
letter I can only indicate that I have

706
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:43,140
evidence that this energy which I have

707
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:46,320
called organ exists not only in living

708
00:34:52,399 --> 00:34:49,170
organisms but also in the soil and in

709
00:34:55,819 --> 00:34:52,409
the atmosphere it is visible and can

710
00:34:57,950 --> 00:34:55,829
be concentrated and measured and he put

711
00:35:01,220 --> 00:34:57,960
that in italics that was his emphasis

712
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:01,230
and I am using it with some success in

713
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:04,190
research on cancer therapy and quote

714
00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:08,609
well hmm exactly six days later he

715
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:11,400
received a response from dr. Einstein

716
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:14,160
inviting him to demonstrate this claim

717
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:17,250
in person in his laboratories in

718
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:21,119
Princeton New Jersey now for those

719
00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:24,180
people who have read treatments of

720
00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:26,220
Reich's life and said oh god he thought

721
00:35:31,450 --> 00:35:28,200
you know the commies were out to get him

722
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:31,460
and then the FDA was out to get him and

723
00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:34,650
then official science and he was

724
00:35:38,029 --> 00:35:36,630
paranoid and you know thought the

725
00:35:40,490 --> 00:35:38,039
government was watching him and things

726
00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:40,500
well all these things were actually true

727
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:43,950
and it's important to note here that the

728
00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:45,839
meeting was arranged through Einstein's

729
00:35:52,660 --> 00:35:48,630
secretary assistant a woman named Helen

730
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:52,670
Dukas and it was set for January 31st

731
00:36:00,319 --> 00:35:56,910
1941 now that afternoon Reich had driven

732
00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:00,329
from from Queens New York to Princeton

733
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:04,200
and the two men met together for more

734
00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:07,200
than four hours during that time Reich

735
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:09,750
actually demonstrated his findings with

736
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:11,250
the laboratory equipment he had brought

737
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:15,569
for Einstein and more they observed the

738
00:36:21,859 --> 00:36:19,650
glowing orgone energy together through a

739
00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:21,869
laboratory apparatus that Reich had

740
00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:24,359
designed for the purpose and it does

741
00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:27,630
glow in a laboratory setting this basic

742
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:30,589
energy in a beautiful light blue the

743
00:36:37,130 --> 00:36:34,619
physicist hind stein that is acknowledge

744
00:36:39,859 --> 00:36:37,140
the glow that he was seeing but refused

745
00:36:42,589 --> 00:36:39,869
to rule out what he described as the

746
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:42,599
subjective element toward the end of his

747
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:47,770
meeting with Reich he noted that

748
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:52,090
he said to Reich that if true and he was

749
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:53,560
seeing it for himself it would be a

750
00:36:57,660 --> 00:36:56,010
great bomb the understanding there was

751
00:37:01,710 --> 00:36:57,670
to physics

752
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:01,720
he asked because among other things what

753
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:03,880
he was seeing violated a little

754
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:06,210
something called the second law of

755
00:37:11,850 --> 00:37:09,130
thermodynamics which is that equal

756
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:11,860
volumes tend to equalize in temperature

757
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:15,520
and in fact they were not doing so in t

758
00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:19,510
o- t he asked write to loan him the

759
00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:21,190
equipment that he had brought so that he

760
00:37:26,340 --> 00:37:24,220
could continue to replicate these

761
00:37:28,350 --> 00:37:26,350
experiment mends for himself and i'm

762
00:37:30,450 --> 00:37:28,360
bringing up another quote here because

763
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:30,460
although I'm well versed in this

764
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:33,010
material and obviously you know can talk

765
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:35,610
about it pretty much free willingly

766
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:38,760
quotations are important and in

767
00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:42,670
anticipation of their meeting Reich had

768
00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:46,150
written in his notes quote organ

769
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:48,790
constitutes the field that Reich is

770
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:51,930
searching for electricity magnetism

771
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:54,400
gravitation etcetera depends on its

772
00:38:01,140 --> 00:37:58,450
functions so again Reich loans him the

773
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:01,150
equipment and Einstein spends the next

774
00:38:06,570 --> 00:38:03,160
week conducting and studying and

775
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:06,580
replicating again and again t o- t and

776
00:38:12,330 --> 00:38:10,090
on February 7th I mean this is all

777
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:12,340
moving very quickly he wrote to Reich

778
00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:14,850
that he had confirmed and reconfirmed

779
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:17,260
Reich's findings the accumulator

780
00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:22,480
repeatedly registered an average of 0.3

781
00:38:30,570 --> 00:38:26,470
to 0.4 degrees centigrade higher in the

782
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:30,580
control box amazing it was at this time

783
00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:33,010
however that one of I'm Stein's

784
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:36,760
assistance offered a simple explanation

785
00:38:42,510 --> 00:38:39,250
for the temperature differential and in

786
00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:42,520
fact a much too simple explanation that

787
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:46,180
it was caused by convection or that is

788
00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:47,410
the difference between the air

789
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:49,990
temperatures under and above the table

790
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:52,720
the accumulator and the control box had

791
00:38:59,550 --> 00:38:56,320
been set on Einstein closed his letter

792
00:39:01,560 --> 00:38:59,560
to Reich relative to this I hope this

793
00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:01,570
will awaken your sense of skepticism

794
00:39:06,090 --> 00:39:04,030
so that you will not allow yourself to

795
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:06,100
be deceived by an illusion that can be

796
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:07,930
easily explained please have someone

797
00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:10,270
pick up your instruments since they are

798
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:13,270
of some value they are undamaged with

799
00:39:20,010 --> 00:39:16,960
friendly greetings a Einstein sadly this

800
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:20,020
was the last actual communication that

801
00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:22,350
passed between the two of them although

802
00:39:29,370 --> 00:39:26,590
this discussion continued on for some

803
00:39:33,110 --> 00:39:29,380
years between in correspondence between

804
00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:33,120
their assistance and that volume is

805
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:35,800
available from a very unique bookstore

806
00:39:41,820 --> 00:39:38,890
the one at the wilhelm reich museum

807
00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:41,830
which is in Rangeley main it is the

808
00:39:47,070 --> 00:39:44,200
location of his last residence his

809
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:47,080
estate his laboratory his workshop his

810
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:49,330
home and it's called the Einstein affair

811
00:39:55,230 --> 00:39:53,050
and his fascinating reading in German

812
00:39:57,630 --> 00:39:55,240
and English everything translated for

813
00:39:58,530 --> 00:39:57,640
anybody that's interested but how did

814
00:40:02,730 --> 00:39:58,540
Reich respond

815
00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:02,740
he wrote back of course that the strict

816
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:05,070
protocols that he had established

817
00:40:10,530 --> 00:40:08,530
eliminated such false explanations even

818
00:40:13,260 --> 00:40:10,540
describing how he had repeatedly and

819
00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:13,270
successfully conducted the experiment

820
00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:16,270
with both boxes buried underground thus

821
00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:18,670
eliminating any possibility of so called

822
00:40:24,810 --> 00:40:21,460
convection unfortunately by this time

823
00:40:27,330 --> 00:40:24,820
Einstein seems to have lost all interest

824
00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:27,340
Reich thought it memorable that the

825
00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:30,040
physicists had been so willing to accept

826
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,080
the first explanation that had come

827
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:35,200
along and refused to reconnect the

828
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:37,810
experiment under the properly controlled

829
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:42,610
conditions now here is why I mentioned

830
00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:46,570
miss dukas's name Einstein's secretary

831
00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:50,230
at the time all of Einsteins mail was

832
00:40:54,990 --> 00:40:52,600
being screened by her and she might have

833
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:55,000
had her own reasons for not wanting her

834
00:40:59,790 --> 00:40:57,040
employer to confirm Reich's findings

835
00:41:04,080 --> 00:40:59,800
when they entered the country the United

836
00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:04,090
States in 1933 both miss Dukas and dr.

837
00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:07,150
Einstein were put under fairly close FBI

838
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:09,670
observation they were aware of course of

839
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:12,790
the great scientists leftist leaning

840
00:41:17,799 --> 00:41:15,200
sympathies but they more

841
00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:17,809
we strongly suspected ms Dukas of being

842
00:41:24,849 --> 00:41:19,849
an active asset of soviet intelligence

843
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:24,859
it's at least 1929 so for the Soviets to

844
00:41:31,930 --> 00:41:28,250
have a active agent in place as the

845
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:31,940
secretary to Einstein who again liked

846
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:34,609
her she knew his routines he had no

847
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:37,130
cause to dismiss her he thought of her I

848
00:41:41,819 --> 00:41:38,720
think as he thought of himself as a

849
00:41:45,010 --> 00:41:41,829
leftist leaning progressive person but

850
00:41:49,089 --> 00:41:45,020
probably was too busy and caught up in

851
00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:49,099
too many more ethereal thoughts and

852
00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:51,470
scientific thoughts to consider her an

853
00:41:57,940 --> 00:41:55,369
actual Soviet spy mm-hmm again the

854
00:41:59,770 --> 00:41:57,950
Soviets were out to destroy Reich's

855
00:42:02,710 --> 00:41:59,780
reputation in any way that they could

856
00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:02,720
and it's also important to note here

857
00:42:09,130 --> 00:42:06,380
that about this time Einstein would

858
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:09,140
already have been drafted into a project

859
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:12,400
called the Manhattan Project and been

860
00:42:21,010 --> 00:42:16,400
very involved in developing the first

861
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:21,020
nuclear bomb and certainly had interests

862
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:24,650
that on their own even if he had not

863
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:27,680
been sort of directed away from Reich's

864
00:42:35,799 --> 00:42:33,049
work in not having the time or the

865
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:35,809
interest perhaps in replicating this

866
00:42:42,910 --> 00:42:39,890
experiment properly and maybe felt who

867
00:42:44,859 --> 00:42:42,920
needed to if it was true a great deal of

868
00:42:47,530 --> 00:42:44,869
what his reputation was built on and

869
00:42:50,530 --> 00:42:47,540
that of other physicists would be open

870
00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:50,540
to question that Organa me as such and

871
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:53,390
Reich study of how energy function in

872
00:43:00,010 --> 00:42:56,240
this specific realm might be problematic

873
00:43:01,770 --> 00:43:00,020
to his work his philosophy etc there we

874
00:43:05,319 --> 00:43:01,780
have that now

875
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:05,329
Reich had trained other physician

876
00:43:11,410 --> 00:43:09,049
psychiatrists in the method that he had

877
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,420
developed coming way out of Freud it

878
00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:13,280
involved very little talk and a lot of

879
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:16,520
physical activity and I know it not in

880
00:43:20,770 --> 00:43:18,290
an intellectual way but having done it

881
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:20,780
for almost seven years of my life and

882
00:43:26,359 --> 00:43:23,690
appreciated the benefits of it but the

883
00:43:29,689 --> 00:43:26,369
FDA which

884
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:29,699
now it's a problem enough for us at the

885
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:32,729
time was really run by not much more

886
00:43:39,309 --> 00:43:35,130
than a bunch of thugs we're looking to

887
00:43:41,839 --> 00:43:39,319
take Reich down their red flag was that

888
00:43:44,029 --> 00:43:41,849
coming into this period that was going

889
00:43:46,359 --> 00:43:44,039
to be the McCarthy era and out of a

890
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:46,369
period in American public life that was

891
00:43:54,410 --> 00:43:51,089
fairly sexually tamp down at the edges

892
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:54,420
that he posed a threat to the American

893
00:44:02,989 --> 00:43:58,079
public because he was interested in sex

894
00:44:06,469 --> 00:44:02,999
and this weird energy and you know their

895
00:44:09,439 --> 00:44:06,479
problem though was that no one had ever

896
00:44:11,569 --> 00:44:09,449
once registered a complaint about dr.

897
00:44:14,089 --> 00:44:11,579
Reich about any of the therapists that

898
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:14,099
he had trained either with the AMA the

899
00:44:22,549 --> 00:44:16,890
American Psychiatric Association or with

900
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:22,559
the FDA itself but in 1947 a first-

901
00:44:26,959 --> 00:44:25,140
article and a more vicious more

902
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:26,969
inaccurate article on reich has never

903
00:44:32,569 --> 00:44:29,249
been published it was called The Strange

904
00:44:34,939 --> 00:44:32,579
Case of Wilhelm Reich the author was a

905
00:44:36,370 --> 00:44:34,949
woman named Mildred Edie Brady and it

906
00:44:39,529 --> 00:44:36,380
appeared in the New Republic magazine

907
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:39,539
which of course is still in print had

908
00:44:45,890 --> 00:44:43,380
Reich followed the advice of his

909
00:44:49,729 --> 00:44:45,900
attorney and those closest to him and

910
00:44:53,809 --> 00:44:49,739
taken legal action against Ms Brady for

911
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:53,819
the scurrilous and in fact libelous

912
00:44:59,839 --> 00:44:56,160
remarks that she made I think it would

913
00:45:01,429 --> 00:44:59,849
have shut her up and very little in the

914
00:45:04,370 --> 00:45:01,439
way of similar attacks would have

915
00:45:07,189 --> 00:45:04,380
followed unfortunately he did not do

916
00:45:09,620 --> 00:45:07,199
this and shortly thereafter the Time

917
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:09,630
magazine published an article called the

918
00:45:15,949 --> 00:45:14,249
marvelous X Box Brady's article was read

919
00:45:18,469 --> 00:45:15,959
by more and more people and you can go

920
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:18,479
online and find The Strange Case of

921
00:45:22,549 --> 00:45:20,160
Wilhelm Reich in the New Republic

922
00:45:26,989 --> 00:45:22,559
published in May of 47 and read it for

923
00:45:29,269 --> 00:45:26,999
yourself but it accused Reich of stating

924
00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:29,279
which he never did that the organ

925
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:33,089
accumulator was a cure-all and Miss

926
00:45:40,130 --> 00:45:36,810
Brady we should note here was not

927
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:40,140
a routine freelancer she had a history

928
00:45:47,540 --> 00:45:43,290
working actively with communist causes

929
00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:47,550
and was a person who seemed to have a

930
00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:51,000
real investment in bringing down right

931
00:45:57,980 --> 00:45:55,500
now there's no question that the article

932
00:46:00,080 --> 00:45:57,990
was completely libelous what we were

933
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:00,090
also what Reich was also not aware of at

934
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:02,970
the time was that Brady was friends with

935
00:46:09,650 --> 00:46:06,330
Reich's actual lawyer something that the

936
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:09,660
lawyer never made public or never told

937
00:46:16,010 --> 00:46:13,050
his client and in fact they conspired

938
00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:16,020
together to a degree sad stop for sure

939
00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:19,500
ultimately Reich went on from here to

940
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:22,230
realize that he could continue to Train

941
00:46:28,490 --> 00:46:24,570
therapists and do therapy himself and

942
00:46:32,180 --> 00:46:28,500
that individuals would gain some real

943
00:46:34,330 --> 00:46:32,190
benefit from it however it would be the

944
00:46:38,090 --> 00:46:34,340
equivalent of trying to straighten out a

945
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:38,100
fully-grown twisted tree you can't do it

946
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,210
and he felt although he encouraged and

947
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:44,400
his therapist certainly continued and

948
00:46:48,590 --> 00:46:46,530
continued now to do the work and there's

949
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:48,600
a great deal of value to it that he

950
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:50,810
should put more of his attention on

951
00:46:58,610 --> 00:46:56,250
infants and what matters in bringing a

952
00:47:01,820 --> 00:46:58,620
healthy infant into the world and

953
00:47:04,370 --> 00:47:01,830
protecting its rights its safety its

954
00:47:08,750 --> 00:47:04,380
emotional health to have a potential to

955
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:08,760
grow to be a healthy happy contributing

956
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:12,240
human being and it's not hard to damage

957
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,370
an infant God knows we've all seen it

958
00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:17,520
done with some you know poor harassed

959
00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:21,270
mother screaming at a baby because she's

960
00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:24,060
hit her limit it's you know Reich would

961
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:25,830
call it the murder of Christ yet one

962
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:29,280
more time hmm he also felt that he

963
00:47:35,140 --> 00:47:32,370
needed to be in a place where he could

964
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:35,150
conduct his experiments in a more open

965
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:37,770
natural atmosphere than Queens New York

966
00:47:43,850 --> 00:47:40,440
and ended up buying a very beautiful

967
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:43,860
property in Rangeley Maine where he

968
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:47,130
built a remarkable building it is now

969
00:47:53,090 --> 00:47:50,640
again the Wilhelm Reich Museum

970
00:47:56,860 --> 00:47:53,100
but when he was living there it was his

971
00:48:00,740 --> 00:47:56,870
home his laboratory an observatory a

972
00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:00,750
painting studio library examination

973
00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:04,470
rooms all integrated into one brilliant

974
00:48:10,570 --> 00:48:07,470
structure in fact I don't know if I've

975
00:48:14,990 --> 00:48:10,580
ever been in a building which is so

976
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:15,000
intelligently designed to be a home and

977
00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:17,010
you move to another part of it a

978
00:48:23,590 --> 00:48:19,940
laboratory another part of it

979
00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:23,600
examination rooms for patients etc etc

980
00:48:31,220 --> 00:48:27,540
he began to do a series of experiments

981
00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:31,230
in Maine one involving a very small

982
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:34,790
amount of radium in an accumulator and

983
00:48:43,630 --> 00:48:38,370
the results that it produced were

984
00:48:46,310 --> 00:48:43,640
horrific this tiny speck of obviously

985
00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:46,320
radioactive material in a simple

986
00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:50,910
accumulator toxified the entire area for

987
00:48:57,740 --> 00:48:54,750
months and made people working with

988
00:49:02,120 --> 00:48:57,750
reich and in the general area ill it

989
00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:02,130
took months to clean the area of the

990
00:49:07,730 --> 00:49:04,980
effects but for anybody who feels that

991
00:49:10,990 --> 00:49:07,740
accumulators you know are nonsensical

992
00:49:15,110 --> 00:49:11,000
and try that experiment for yourself and

993
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:15,120
experience the results so this brings us

994
00:49:23,690 --> 00:49:19,440
Gregg up into the early 1950s and at

995
00:49:26,110 --> 00:49:23,700
that time working with his groundskeeper

996
00:49:29,180 --> 00:49:26,120
he developed a very simple apparatus

997
00:49:32,180 --> 00:49:29,190
again bearing in mind all he had learned

998
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,190
about how energy functions and when

999
00:49:38,060 --> 00:49:34,800
dealing with orgone energy how the

1000
00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:38,070
energetic potential flows from the

1001
00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:41,790
stronger to the weaker rather than the

1002
00:49:45,860 --> 00:49:43,350
weaker to the stronger as in

1003
00:49:49,340 --> 00:49:45,870
conventional electricity what he

1004
00:49:52,460 --> 00:49:49,350
developed was a brilliant yet incredibly

1005
00:49:54,070 --> 00:49:52,470
simple apparatus that came to be called

1006
00:49:58,670 --> 00:49:54,080
the cloud buster

1007
00:50:04,070 --> 00:49:58,680
water is an energetic attractor and what

1008
00:50:08,090 --> 00:50:04,080
he did was design the simple apparatus

1009
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:08,100
of metal pipes that basically standard

1010
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:10,290
cloud busters might be for over four or

1011
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:13,050
five over five of a certain appreciable

1012
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:16,110
lengths he experimented with different

1013
00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:20,460
metals and the pipes again were in sort

1014
00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:23,550
of two rows one over one under the back

1015
00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:27,990
of each pipe was connected to a long

1016
00:50:35,210 --> 00:50:31,950
piece of industrial BX cable with the

1017
00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:35,220
wiring pulled out again this is the

1018
00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:38,550
larger equivalent of the BX cable that

1019
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:40,590
snakes through all of our homes with

1020
00:50:47,420 --> 00:50:44,010
wiring in it it was mounted in a manner

1021
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:47,430
that could be adjusted for elevation and

1022
00:50:56,030 --> 00:50:50,640
for direction and using this apparatus

1023
00:50:59,660 --> 00:50:56,040
with the BX cable ends grounded in his

1024
00:51:02,960 --> 00:50:59,670
pond on his property in Rangeley he

1025
00:51:06,410 --> 00:51:02,970
aimed the pipes in an easterly direction

1026
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:06,420
now at the time there was also a drought

1027
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:10,410
in the area of South Main that he lived

1028
00:51:19,070 --> 00:51:15,710
and his thought was perhaps if the water

1029
00:51:21,470 --> 00:51:19,080
actually grounded the energy and acted

1030
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:21,480
as an attractor and you can do it in a

1031
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:25,290
pond in running water in a well in still

1032
00:51:31,970 --> 00:51:25,710
water

1033
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:31,980
the movement potential certainly doesn't

1034
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:34,890
hurt that it would begin to create

1035
00:51:43,610 --> 00:51:39,110
movement in the atmosphere where

1036
00:51:46,910 --> 00:51:43,620
moisture-rich air not that far away over

1037
00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:46,920
the Atlantic would be drawn in a

1038
00:51:54,190 --> 00:51:49,070
westerly direction and ultimately

1039
00:51:56,750 --> 00:51:54,200
increase the humidity index in the air

1040
00:52:00,380 --> 00:51:56,760
hypothetically leading to a point where

1041
00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:00,390
it might create rain hmm well it

1042
00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:04,200
certainly did increase the humidity in

1043
00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:08,190
the air and did create rain so much so

1044
00:52:15,050 --> 00:52:11,700
that the drought conditions in that area

1045
00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:15,060
of Maine went away in the surrounding

1046
00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:16,260
area they

1047
00:52:21,650 --> 00:52:18,900
remained which was not surprisingly of

1048
00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:21,660
interest to farmers as well as local

1049
00:52:25,580 --> 00:52:24,030
folks who were aware of what he was

1050
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:25,590
doing he certainly didn't keep it secret

1051
00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:32,640
and in October of 53 he I guess that's

1052
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:35,160
really when he dates when we have to

1053
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:37,170
date his interest in the UFO phenomena

1054
00:52:44,180 --> 00:52:39,810
because that's when they started to

1055
00:52:47,330 --> 00:52:44,190
appear over his property and there is no

1056
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:47,340
question that this happened he observed

1057
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:49,680
it people in Rangeley observed that

1058
00:52:55,340 --> 00:52:51,890
people in the surrounding area did and

1059
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:55,350
certainly the scientists physicians

1060
00:52:59,480 --> 00:52:57,690
therapists coming and going from his

1061
00:53:02,420 --> 00:52:59,490
property or working there and the

1062
00:53:07,340 --> 00:53:02,430
students as well observed UFO phenomena

1063
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:07,350
over the property he read his first two

1064
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:10,800
books on UFOs at that time and for those

1065
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:13,770
listeners who are somewhat well-versed

1066
00:53:18,650 --> 00:53:16,050
on the subject of UFOs you should be

1067
00:53:22,820 --> 00:53:18,660
aware that they were flying saucers from

1068
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:22,830
outer space by Donald Akiho a highly

1069
00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:25,920
respected retired Marine Corps major who

1070
00:53:31,490 --> 00:53:27,840
was a fighter pilot during World War two

1071
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:31,500
and arguably the father of the real

1072
00:53:36,830 --> 00:53:34,890
scientific study of UFOs Kehoe's books

1073
00:53:39,620 --> 00:53:36,840
are still worth reading the second book

1074
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:39,630
that Reich read was EJ Rou Pelt's report

1075
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:43,200
on UFOs repelled had been as a captain

1076
00:53:47,090 --> 00:53:44,160
in the Air Force

1077
00:53:49,820 --> 00:53:47,100
head of Project Blue Book at one time an

1078
00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:49,830
important public relations effort on the

1079
00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:51,830
part of the Air Force masquerading as a

1080
00:53:58,370 --> 00:53:56,760
genuine aspect of UFO studies really

1081
00:54:01,340 --> 00:53:58,380
wasn't

1082
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:01,350
a quote here is important after reading

1083
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:05,010
the rue Pelt book Reich wrote the repeal

1084
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:07,680
report on UFOs clearly reveals the

1085
00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:10,290
helplessness of mechanistic method in

1086
00:54:15,590 --> 00:54:12,660
coming to grips with the problem posed

1087
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:15,600
by the spaceman the cosmic orgone energy

1088
00:54:21,590 --> 00:54:18,510
which these living beings are using in

1089
00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:21,600
their technology is beyond the grasp of

1090
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:24,870
mechanistic science since cosmic laws of

1091
00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:27,330
functioning are not mechanical but what

1092
00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:30,150
I term functional the helplessness of

1093
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:32,520
mechanical thinking appears in the

1094
00:54:37,730 --> 00:54:35,010
tragic shortcomings of our fastest

1095
00:54:41,090 --> 00:54:37,740
fighter jets to make and hold contact

1096
00:54:43,790 --> 00:54:41,100
with UFOs being unavoidably outdistance

1097
00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:43,800
is not a flattering situation for

1098
00:54:49,070 --> 00:54:46,800
military pride the conclusion seems

1099
00:54:52,580 --> 00:54:49,080
correct mechanistic methods of

1100
00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:52,590
locomotion must be counted out in coping

1101
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:55,470
with the spaceship problem now that

1102
00:55:01,990 --> 00:54:58,290
statement among others is almost

1103
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:02,000
outrageously prophetic Reich early on

1104
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:04,650
observed and I think rightly concluded

1105
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:08,480
that the propulsive systems of these

1106
00:55:16,490 --> 00:55:12,510
truly anomalous UFOs went beyond any

1107
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:16,500
kind of motor that we could visualize as

1108
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:19,290
human beings certainly in the 1950s and

1109
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:22,530
that somehow the propulsive systems of

1110
00:55:28,610 --> 00:55:26,370
UFOs which I have no idea how they

1111
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:28,620
function however I think Reich was

1112
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:31,020
correct and that they somehow have been

1113
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:35,610
able to harness this sea of energy which

1114
00:55:40,850 --> 00:55:38,010
they moved through from wherever they

1115
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:40,860
originate to earth where we observe them

1116
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:46,800
now in March of 54 he sent a copy of his

1117
00:55:52,030 --> 00:55:49,710
writing developed at that point on UFOs

1118
00:55:54,650 --> 00:55:52,040
to the Air Force it was an actual

1119
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:54,660
manuscript right and a lot of the stuff

1120
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:56,970
he was studying here had implications

1121
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,530
they were pretty far reaching outside of

1122
00:56:03,580 --> 00:56:01,200
just our earthly environment right when

1123
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:03,590
all was said and done basic to Reich's

1124
00:56:08,510 --> 00:56:06,330
understanding of the universe was the

1125
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:08,520
pervasive presence of this energy which

1126
00:56:12,450 --> 00:56:09,790
he called organ

1127
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:12,460
implying the possibility of life in

1128
00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:15,070
space which is something that we now

1129
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:17,560
fully acknowledge even on the most

1130
00:56:23,610 --> 00:56:21,090
conservative ideas put forward by

1131
00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:23,620
astronomers at this time Reich's

1132
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:26,350
questioning encompass a great deal more

1133
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:29,110
than human neuroses and armoring and

1134
00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:32,170
health and infants and weather systems

1135
00:56:38,970 --> 00:56:35,800
he was looking at how galactic currents

1136
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:38,980
worked the formation and destruction of

1137
00:56:44,550 --> 00:56:40,930
star systems the origins of the universe

1138
00:56:46,940 --> 00:56:44,560
itself and again along with his

1139
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:46,950
deepening involvement in cloud busting

1140
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:51,490
he now began just amazing the way this

1141
00:56:58,380 --> 00:56:54,640
mind the this man's mind work in terms

1142
00:57:00,690 --> 00:56:58,390
of nuts and bolts scientific thinking he

1143
00:57:04,170 --> 00:57:00,700
now began a careful examination of the

1144
00:57:07,950 --> 00:57:04,180
stars themselves and said about to prove

1145
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:07,960
that some stars did not behave like

1146
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:12,610
others and in fact were UFOs I remember

1147
00:57:19,310 --> 00:57:15,450
when I first read about this stuff Greg

1148
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:19,320
it all appears in a book called

1149
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:23,950
contact with space which is absolutely

1150
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:26,950
brilliant and the last book that he

1151
00:57:35,150 --> 00:57:30,490
wrote it was published a month after he

1152
00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:35,160
died posthumously in December of 1957

1153
00:57:41,130 --> 00:57:38,350
however it was only printed in an

1154
00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:41,140
edition of 500 even if you're not

1155
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:43,240
interested in or gaana me oh boy what a

1156
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:45,510
valuable book to have in your library I

1157
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:47,710
know a handful of people who actually

1158
00:57:53,690 --> 00:57:50,410
have editions of the book like most

1159
00:57:58,110 --> 00:57:53,700
readers of the book I have long had a

1160
00:58:00,650 --> 00:57:58,120
first-generation copy made and sold at

1161
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:00,660
the bookstore of the Wilhelm Reich

1162
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:04,210
Museum in Rangeley Maine but I would

1163
00:58:09,690 --> 00:58:06,610
also say that contact with space is

1164
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:09,700
probably the worst first book of dr.

1165
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:12,640
will hum Reich's to read it is based on

1166
00:58:21,940 --> 00:58:18,240
more than 35 years of scientific study

1167
00:58:26,050 --> 00:58:21,950
experimentation theoretical thinking

1168
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,060
proving for himself in a way that makes

1169
00:58:32,260 --> 00:58:28,880
perfect sense going from one subject to

1170
00:58:35,050 --> 00:58:32,270
another when you understand how energy

1171
00:58:38,170 --> 00:58:35,060
functioning cuts across all of his

1172
00:58:40,810 --> 00:58:38,180
interest going back to Freud and into

1173
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:40,820
the world of galactic formations UFOs

1174
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:44,960
etc but to read it as a first book where

1175
00:58:53,020 --> 00:58:49,609
he is simply going on about the reality

1176
00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:53,030
of UFOs and cloud busting for a

1177
00:58:58,690 --> 00:58:56,020
layperson especially somebody who is

1178
00:59:01,150 --> 00:58:58,700
predisposed to think that he was not

1179
00:59:04,029 --> 00:59:01,160
mentally all there

1180
00:59:06,460 --> 00:59:04,039
it ain't the best book to start with but

1181
00:59:09,819 --> 00:59:06,470
an essential book to any serious student

1182
00:59:12,819 --> 00:59:09,829
of his work and in contact with space

1183
00:59:14,170 --> 00:59:12,829
again brilliant nuts and bolts thinking

1184
00:59:17,279 --> 00:59:14,180
about how do you establish certain

1185
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:17,289
things that are so sweeping with

1186
00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:20,240
conventional apparatus and what he did

1187
00:59:27,849 --> 00:59:23,470
in this examination of stars was used

1188
00:59:30,490 --> 00:59:27,859
nocturnal time-lapse photography the

1189
00:59:33,970 --> 00:59:30,500
investigative technique was simply using

1190
00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:33,980
a 35-millimeter camera which was mounted

1191
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:37,369
on a tripod carefully set to face the

1192
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:40,130
night sky with the shutter open and the

1193
00:59:45,940 --> 00:59:42,319
experiment produced some unexpected

1194
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:45,950
results the huge majority of stars of

1195
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:49,280
course caused a slight line as the Earth

1196
00:59:55,210 --> 00:59:52,910
rotates in the course of a night and you

1197
01:00:01,029 --> 00:59:55,220
know that's what you get this huge

1198
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:01,039
series of lines in this circle revolving

1199
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:05,210
around you know the North Star some of

1200
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:08,240
the stars obviously the the stars the

1201
01:00:13,690 --> 01:00:10,000
real stars produce the white lines

1202
01:00:17,339 --> 01:00:13,700
indicating the Earth's rotation however

1203
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:17,349
a small number of other dots of light

1204
01:00:24,730 --> 01:00:20,930
that were there to start with simply

1205
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:24,740
vanished in the course of that open

1206
01:00:31,329 --> 01:00:26,720
shutter during the night indicating that

1207
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:31,339
they were not stars and in fact the only

1208
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:33,950
logical deduction was that they were

1209
01:00:41,950 --> 01:00:37,730
truly anomalous UFOs I should also say

1210
01:00:44,769 --> 01:00:41,960
here I'm using the term UFOs but flying

1211
01:00:48,779 --> 01:00:44,779
saucers was still the accepted term in

1212
01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:48,789
that point in the 1950s it wasn't until

1213
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:53,260
55 or certainly 1956 when the term

1214
01:00:58,690 --> 01:00:56,170
unidentified flying object or UFO

1215
01:01:03,190 --> 01:00:58,700
actually emerged

1216
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:03,200
so we're now in October early October of

1217
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:08,480
that year of 1953 and UFOs are being

1218
01:01:15,630 --> 01:01:10,640
observed over the property as he

1219
01:01:20,110 --> 01:01:15,640
continues cloud busting and finally he

1220
01:01:23,470 --> 01:01:20,120
decides to do something that he had been

1221
01:01:28,690 --> 01:01:23,480
hesitating which was to aim the cloud

1222
01:01:30,970 --> 01:01:28,700
buster at a UFO and who knew what was

1223
01:01:33,490 --> 01:01:30,980
going to happen was it you know going to

1224
01:01:36,820 --> 01:01:33,500
blast him with sense some scientific

1225
01:01:40,060 --> 01:01:36,830
science fiction beam of light er what

1226
01:01:42,430 --> 01:01:40,070
was going to happen and again I pulled

1227
01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:42,440
up a quote here because I feel it's

1228
01:01:49,090 --> 01:01:45,710
warranted at this point and my going on

1229
01:01:51,790 --> 01:01:49,100
I hesitated for weeks to turn my

1230
01:01:56,530 --> 01:01:51,800
cloudbuster pipes toward a star in

1231
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:56,540
quotes as if I had known that some of

1232
01:02:00,700 --> 01:01:58,010
the blinking lights hanging in the sky

1233
01:02:03,730 --> 01:02:00,710
were not planets or stars but space

1234
01:02:06,610 --> 01:02:03,740
machines when I saw the quote-unquote

1235
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:06,620
star to the west fade out four times in

1236
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:09,890
succession what had been left of the old

1237
01:02:18,490 --> 01:02:13,130
world of human knowledge tumbled beyond

1238
01:02:20,890 --> 01:02:18,500
retrieve from now on everything anything

1239
01:02:23,890 --> 01:02:20,900
was possible there was no mistake about

1240
01:02:27,010 --> 01:02:23,900
it three more people had seen it there

1241
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:27,020
was only one conclusion the thing we we

1242
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:30,650
had drawn from was not a star it was

1243
01:02:36,430 --> 01:02:33,680
something else and I take it back the

1244
01:02:39,610 --> 01:02:36,440
term UFO wasn't being used at that time

1245
01:02:42,220 --> 01:02:39,620
a UFO the shock of this experience was

1246
01:02:46,030 --> 01:02:42,230
great enough not to repeat such an

1247
01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:46,040
action until 10 October 1954

1248
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:51,260
well Reich and his

1249
01:02:57,460 --> 01:02:53,930
the scientists working with him decided

1250
01:03:00,339 --> 01:02:57,470
that what needed to be done in the same

1251
01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:00,349
way that before presenting his findings

1252
01:03:07,060 --> 01:03:03,680
to Einstein he had to establish his

1253
01:03:10,780 --> 01:03:07,070
findings in such concrete scientific

1254
01:03:12,460 --> 01:03:10,790
terms that the world of establishment

1255
01:03:15,940 --> 01:03:12,470
scientists would have a real challenge

1256
01:03:19,870 --> 01:03:15,950
in refuting them and so what they said

1257
01:03:23,010 --> 01:03:19,880
about to do was find an area where he

1258
01:03:27,490 --> 01:03:23,020
could conduct weather modification work

1259
01:03:30,670 --> 01:03:27,500
with the intention of creating rain in

1260
01:03:34,750 --> 01:03:30,680
an area where it did not rain for such a

1261
01:03:35,530 --> 01:03:34,760
long time and in such an amount that the

1262
01:03:39,010 --> 01:03:35,540
cloudbuster

1263
01:03:41,380 --> 01:03:39,020
work itself would have to be seen as the

1264
01:03:44,620 --> 01:03:41,390
cause of the rain they established

1265
01:03:47,770 --> 01:03:44,630
fairly early on that the driest area in

1266
01:03:51,450 --> 01:03:47,780
the United States was in Death Valley

1267
01:03:55,150 --> 01:03:51,460
but it was not practical to conduct

1268
01:03:57,790 --> 01:03:55,160
cloud busting experiments there the area

1269
01:04:01,210 --> 01:03:57,800
that they settled on was just outside of

1270
01:04:04,450 --> 01:04:01,220
Tucson Arizona where he least 10 acres

1271
01:04:11,710 --> 01:04:04,460
on the Prairie right outside of Tucson

1272
01:04:15,490 --> 01:04:11,720
and that summer he and a small cadre of

1273
01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:15,500
colleagues including his daughter dr.

1274
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:17,380
Eva Reich who was a physician

1275
01:04:22,750 --> 01:04:20,210
dr. Baker for some of the time who was

1276
01:04:27,970 --> 01:04:22,760
my therapist when I was in medical organ

1277
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:27,980
therapy in the 1980s and the 70s late

1278
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:34,090
70s dr. Eva Reich's husband who

1279
01:04:40,070 --> 01:04:37,570
was a man named William Moyes who was a

1280
01:04:44,430 --> 01:04:40,080
trained cloudbuster operator and others

1281
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:44,440
drove to cloud busters out from Maine to

1282
01:04:53,340 --> 01:04:48,010
this area in Arizona where they set up

1283
01:05:00,440 --> 01:04:53,350
and began to work and over the next

1284
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:00,450
weeks the energetic potential the

1285
01:05:07,470 --> 01:05:03,730
humidity the relative humidity index in

1286
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:07,480
the air began to build very exciting

1287
01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:10,240
certainly and I should say this was not

1288
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:12,160
in the summer this was already autumn in

1289
01:05:18,750 --> 01:05:15,730
October of 54 once they had settled in

1290
01:05:21,030 --> 01:05:18,760
they commenced their drawing operations

1291
01:05:23,550 --> 01:05:21,040
which was the term applied to cloud

1292
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:23,560
busting regularly observing the

1293
01:05:30,330 --> 01:05:26,170
atmosphere with the media meteorological

1294
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:30,340
instruments recording every aspect of

1295
01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:32,650
what they were observing in accordance

1296
01:05:39,090 --> 01:05:37,270
with strict scientific method and dr.

1297
01:05:42,330 --> 01:05:39,100
Reich also encouraged all present to

1298
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:42,340
keep individual journals which were also

1299
01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:47,890
maintained by November 7th and they

1300
01:05:56,690 --> 01:05:52,270
began work the 19th or the 20th by

1301
01:06:01,140 --> 01:05:56,700
November 7th the usual humidity index

1302
01:06:05,340 --> 01:06:01,150
relative humidity so to say a 15 of

1303
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:05,350
let's see of had risen I'm sorry from

1304
01:06:14,030 --> 01:06:09,970
its usual 15 or so percent to 65 percent

1305
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:14,040
which was unheard of for the Tucson area

1306
01:06:20,370 --> 01:06:16,720
drawing continued from the southwest

1307
01:06:24,090 --> 01:06:20,380
direction again drawing from ultimately

1308
01:06:27,620 --> 01:06:24,100
the Pacific Ocean area and on November

1309
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:27,630
7th the first clouds were forming and

1310
01:06:33,150 --> 01:06:30,640
indicated that it would rain soon they

1311
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:33,160
then observed without apparent

1312
01:06:39,090 --> 01:06:35,710
explanation the clouds beginning to

1313
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:39,100
compose it was then they observed a

1314
01:06:43,770 --> 01:06:42,370
large bright UFO coming up from the

1315
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:43,780
north

1316
01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:46,970
the struggle so to say continued over

1317
01:06:54,579 --> 01:06:50,960
the next weeks the humidity index kept

1318
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:54,589
rising UFOs would appear and the

1319
01:07:02,140 --> 01:06:57,530
humidity index would dramatically drop

1320
01:07:05,260 --> 01:07:02,150
it is also worth noting here that in

1321
01:07:07,530 --> 01:07:05,270
Tucson there is a very distinguished

1322
01:07:11,230 --> 01:07:07,540
institution called the Institute of

1323
01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:11,240
atmospheric physics it was founded in

1324
01:07:18,730 --> 01:07:15,280
1953 interestingly as a direct result of

1325
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:18,740
the formation of President Eisenhower's

1326
01:07:25,539 --> 01:07:21,650
advisory board on weather control

1327
01:07:29,559 --> 01:07:25,549
earlier that year Eisenhower was very

1328
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:29,569
interested in potential methods to

1329
01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:32,410
affect the weather one can theorize that

1330
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:35,569
perhaps part of it was interest in

1331
01:07:43,420 --> 01:07:40,089
weather as a weapon but certainly in

1332
01:07:45,789 --> 01:07:43,430
farming and in creating rain where there

1333
01:07:48,220 --> 01:07:45,799
was none in busting droughts it would be

1334
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,230
a very valuable tool to have the

1335
01:07:53,339 --> 01:07:51,200
administrator of the Institute for

1336
01:07:56,049 --> 01:07:53,349
atmospherics was a good friend of

1337
01:07:58,569 --> 01:07:56,059
Eisenhower's named Lou Douglas who was

1338
01:08:01,780 --> 01:07:58,579
also a major fundraiser for the

1339
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:01,790
Republican Party and Douglas had hired a

1340
01:08:07,539 --> 01:08:04,160
brilliant atmospheric physicist named

1341
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:07,549
dr. James McDonald who was working at

1342
01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:10,640
the newly established Institute for

1343
01:08:17,249 --> 01:08:13,760
atmospheric physics in Tucson at the

1344
01:08:19,959 --> 01:08:17,259
exact time that wilhelm reich was

1345
01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:19,969
overseeing cloud busting operations at

1346
01:08:26,110 --> 01:08:23,560
the edge of tucson right then and there

1347
01:08:30,220 --> 01:08:26,120
dr. McDonald certainly would have had a

1348
01:08:33,610 --> 01:08:30,230
genuine interest in Reich's work but we

1349
01:08:37,390 --> 01:08:33,620
don't know if the two actually ever met

1350
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:37,400
and talked we do know that a local

1351
01:08:43,660 --> 01:08:41,210
television program filmed the cloud

1352
01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:43,670
busting operation at a certain point and

1353
01:08:50,410 --> 01:08:47,480
that McDonald was seen that he was

1354
01:08:53,169 --> 01:08:50,420
watching it at a distance reich was not

1355
01:08:55,130 --> 01:08:53,179
on location at that moment so it's

1356
01:08:57,410 --> 01:08:55,140
interesting to

1357
01:09:01,730 --> 01:08:57,420
wonder about this the reason I bring it

1358
01:09:04,850 --> 01:09:01,740
up is because this brilliant decent man

1359
01:09:07,970 --> 01:09:04,860
James McDonald who again was an

1360
01:09:10,190 --> 01:09:07,980
atmospheric physicist whether or not he

1361
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:10,200
was able to connect with Reich whatever

1362
01:09:20,110 --> 01:09:13,770
his interested was in cloud busting he

1363
01:09:24,350 --> 01:09:20,120
emerged some years later as the most

1364
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:24,360
significant proponent for scientific

1365
01:09:30,050 --> 01:09:27,810
ufology and the study of ufology to be

1366
01:09:33,020 --> 01:09:30,060
taken very seriously by the American

1367
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:33,030
scientific establishment put his life

1368
01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:36,330
and his reputation on the line to try to

1369
01:09:47,270 --> 01:09:42,510
create this Herculean effect in the

1370
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:47,280
scientific community was beaten down was

1371
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:52,290
made fun of was taken to task by not

1372
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:53,850
just the scientific community but

1373
01:09:59,930 --> 01:09:56,730
members of Congress when he testified

1374
01:10:02,270 --> 01:09:59,940
about the viability of a supersonic

1375
01:10:05,740 --> 01:10:02,280
transport which ultimately emerged as

1376
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:05,750
the Concorde in the late 60s early 70s

1377
01:10:10,700 --> 01:10:08,250
to such a degree that it broke him

1378
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:10,710
contributed to massive depression that

1379
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:13,650
he experienced and ultimately to his

1380
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:16,650
untimely and tragic suicide off on a

1381
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:19,520
tangent but I think an important one by

1382
01:10:25,070 --> 01:10:22,560
the 13th of November Gregg the cloud

1383
01:10:27,350 --> 01:10:25,080
busting operation was showing amazing

1384
01:10:30,700 --> 01:10:27,360
results the relative humidity had rose

1385
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:30,710
into 67 degrees there was foliage

1386
01:10:37,730 --> 01:10:34,410
observable on mountain ranges that could

1387
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:37,740
be seen from Tucson something that had

1388
01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:42,000
never been observed in modern times that

1389
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:44,550
the mountain ranges were turning green

1390
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:48,480
for me you know as a layperson with a

1391
01:10:54,620 --> 01:10:52,050
passionate interest in aspects of

1392
01:10:56,450 --> 01:10:54,630
science obviously dr. reicks work which

1393
01:10:59,600 --> 01:10:56,460
has governed a certain amount of my life

1394
01:11:01,820 --> 01:10:59,610
for most of my life the same things that

1395
01:11:04,370 --> 01:11:01,830
I apply as an investigative writer in

1396
01:11:05,870 --> 01:11:04,380
UFOs looking for small details human

1397
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:05,880
details

1398
01:11:14,660 --> 01:11:11,040
illuminate the bigger story emerge right

1399
01:11:16,850 --> 01:11:14,670
here several weeks a week two weeks

1400
01:11:20,690 --> 01:11:16,860
before it actually began to rain and

1401
01:11:23,260 --> 01:11:20,700
broke every weather record in the

1402
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:23,270
history of Arizona still to this day

1403
01:11:30,890 --> 01:11:27,450
prairie grass began to spontaneously

1404
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:30,900
sprout up in the acreage of the leased

1405
01:11:37,220 --> 01:11:33,930
site where they were doing the cloud

1406
01:11:38,780 --> 01:11:37,230
busting operation and I want your

1407
01:11:45,010 --> 01:11:38,790
listeners to take a moment and think

1408
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:45,020
about that that dormant seeds in that

1409
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:50,130
sand for decades and decades and you

1410
01:11:54,980 --> 01:11:52,560
know seeds are amazing things we seeds

1411
01:11:57,290 --> 01:11:54,990
that were in the great pyramid for

1412
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:57,300
millennia have been sprouted and there

1413
01:12:01,790 --> 01:11:59,760
are other examples of that it's it's

1414
01:12:04,130 --> 01:12:01,800
just one of the great miracles of the

1415
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:04,140
way that life functions on this amazing

1416
01:12:09,410 --> 01:12:07,530
planet that grass began to grow around

1417
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:09,420
the site there was that much moisture in

1418
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:12,570
the air before it actually began raining

1419
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:15,510
I know I've been going on for a long

1420
01:12:21,170 --> 01:12:18,480
time obviously the two hours we've

1421
01:12:23,690 --> 01:12:21,180
allotted for this show this is such a

1422
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:23,700
huge subject dr. reicks work for me is

1423
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:26,640
filled decades of my life and made it a

1424
01:12:31,850 --> 01:12:29,130
much more fulfilling life than I think

1425
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:31,860
it might have been otherwise but to sum

1426
01:12:36,140 --> 01:12:33,210
things up and then go to whatever

1427
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:36,150
questions we had time for in the next

1428
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:39,120
day or so the temperature dropped to 47

1429
01:12:45,380 --> 01:12:41,970
percent humidity the humidity dropped to

1430
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:45,390
40% percent not the temperature it was

1431
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:48,330
accompanied by major UFO activity and I

1432
01:12:55,670 --> 01:12:52,490
mean flashing pulsating UFOs in the air

1433
01:12:58,970 --> 01:12:55,680
observed by people in Tucson this is not

1434
01:13:01,490 --> 01:12:58,980
some you know crazy conspiratorial story

1435
01:13:03,890 --> 01:13:01,500
this was being seen by the public many

1436
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:03,900
of whom were increasingly interested in

1437
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:06,080
Reich's weather modification work

1438
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:10,410
ultimately it resulted in what Wright

1439
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:12,050
described as something like a battle

1440
01:13:19,339 --> 01:13:15,930
between UFO activity and cloud busting

1441
01:13:22,369 --> 01:13:19,349
activity and ultimately into

1442
01:13:23,989 --> 01:13:22,379
December and I'm kind of compressing the

1443
01:13:28,819 --> 01:13:23,999
story here tremendously

1444
01:13:30,109 --> 01:13:28,829
it not only rained but it snowed at the

1445
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:30,119
Tucson Airport

1446
01:13:39,619 --> 01:13:34,249
I believe on the Christmas Day of of

1447
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:39,629
1954 every weather record in the history

1448
01:13:49,369 --> 01:13:43,289
of the state of Arizona was broken it

1449
01:13:51,979 --> 01:13:49,379
rained so hard that drainage ditches

1450
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:51,989
that had not seen rain for more than

1451
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,290
half a century flooded out

1452
01:13:59,660 --> 01:13:57,840
and people who had built their homes in

1453
01:14:03,080 --> 01:13:59,670
those drainage ditches over the

1454
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:03,090
preceding decades were flooded out snow

1455
01:14:09,470 --> 01:14:07,140
could be seen on mount Catalina 2,000

1456
01:14:12,530 --> 01:14:09,480
families had to be evacuated from the

1457
01:14:15,650 --> 01:14:12,540
perennially dry riverbed where they had

1458
01:14:18,410 --> 01:14:15,660
built their homes the rain moved on to

1459
01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:18,420
Texas and New Mexico while the Phoenix

1460
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:21,510
Valley experienced fog for the first

1461
01:14:25,220 --> 01:14:24,810
time in memory it went on and on from

1462
01:14:30,710 --> 01:14:25,230
there

1463
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:30,720
and into January a local bank had

1464
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:33,840
approached dr. Reich with an offer to

1465
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:36,570
fund his continuing work in the area

1466
01:14:43,730 --> 01:14:40,110
local farmers asked to meet with him to

1467
01:14:46,010 --> 01:14:43,740
learn the techniques and begin this

1468
01:14:48,740 --> 01:14:46,020
weather modification on their own and

1469
01:14:52,700 --> 01:14:48,750
then history interceded in another way

1470
01:14:58,030 --> 01:14:52,710
the FDA which again had been trying for

1471
01:15:00,080 --> 01:14:58,040
years to destroy Reich managed to create

1472
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:00,090
legislation that was fair enough

1473
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:03,690
that Reichs orgone energy accumulators

1474
01:15:10,810 --> 01:15:06,120
which were being manufactured on a one

1475
01:15:16,670 --> 01:15:10,820
by one manufacturing schedule out of the

1476
01:15:19,580 --> 01:15:16,680
Rangeley location and being shipped to

1477
01:15:21,710 --> 01:15:19,590
people interested in them the FDA was

1478
01:15:25,390 --> 01:15:21,720
able to get an injunction against

1479
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:25,400
interstate shipping of accumulators and

1480
01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:29,130
classifying them as experimental medical

1481
01:15:34,270 --> 01:15:31,140
or scientific devices which was fair

1482
01:15:37,220 --> 01:15:34,280
enough unfortunately one of Reich's

1483
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:37,230
physicians a brilliant clinician and a

1484
01:15:42,890 --> 01:15:39,110
very decent man named Michael silvered

1485
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:42,900
screwed up and he shipped panels for an

1486
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:46,110
accumulator out of state and so an

1487
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:49,410
injunction was created it happened right

1488
01:15:56,090 --> 01:15:52,290
at this moment in this extraordinary

1489
01:16:00,410 --> 01:15:56,100
moment in Arizona and Reich decided to

1490
01:16:03,020 --> 01:16:00,420
return to Maine and against once again

1491
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:03,030
the advice of all who cared about him as

1492
01:16:11,130 --> 01:16:05,890
well as the people who had his best

1493
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:11,140
um best interest

1494
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:15,530
yes exactly in mind that he decided that

1495
01:16:23,610 --> 01:16:18,310
he would take personal responsibility

1496
01:16:27,490 --> 01:16:23,620
absolving the clinician who actually

1497
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:27,500
shipped the panels although dr. Silber

1498
01:16:33,210 --> 01:16:29,210
was consumed with guilt about having

1499
01:16:37,420 --> 01:16:33,220
done so more that he would use the court

1500
01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:37,430
case as an opportunity to present the

1501
01:16:43,150 --> 01:16:39,710
validity of his work in an American

1502
01:16:47,670 --> 01:16:43,160
Court well it blew up against him in

1503
01:16:51,310 --> 01:16:47,680
several ways number one his attorney who

1504
01:16:55,180 --> 01:16:51,320
really had been conspiring against him

1505
01:16:58,860 --> 01:16:55,190
for years and was a friend of the judge

1506
01:17:02,620 --> 01:16:58,870
who had the case really let him down and

1507
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:02,630
his attempt to present his the validity

1508
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:05,530
of his work would absolutely not be

1509
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:09,110
accepted by the court he was judged

1510
01:17:15,490 --> 01:17:12,080
guilty of interstate shipment of a

1511
01:17:19,060 --> 01:17:15,500
scientific unproven scientific medical

1512
01:17:24,430 --> 01:17:19,070
device and was sentenced to a year in

1513
01:17:28,750 --> 01:17:24,440
prison which he served in Lewisburg

1514
01:17:30,970 --> 01:17:28,760
State Penitentiary in Pennsylvania it

1515
01:17:34,340 --> 01:17:30,980
broke him though and I should also say

1516
01:17:38,330 --> 01:17:34,350
that starting at this time

1517
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:38,340
until 1960 or so several years after his

1518
01:17:44,930 --> 01:17:42,450
death and several months before the

1519
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:44,940
inauguration of President Kennedy more

1520
01:17:50,300 --> 01:17:47,760
than eight tons of Reich's original

1521
01:17:53,810 --> 01:17:50,310
scientific literature first edition

1522
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:53,820
public books monographs pamphlets case

1523
01:18:00,590 --> 01:17:56,610
histories were destroyed in government

1524
01:18:04,010 --> 01:18:00,600
incinerators why because the FDA had

1525
01:18:09,740 --> 01:18:04,020
managed in their injunction to state

1526
01:18:13,190 --> 01:18:09,750
that orgone energy was a hoax a fraud a

1527
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:13,200
fantasy and any reference to it they had

1528
01:18:19,550 --> 01:18:17,010
the right to burn books many of the

1529
01:18:22,220 --> 01:18:19,560
books that were burned made no mention

1530
01:18:25,190 --> 01:18:22,230
of orgone energy but it might have been

1531
01:18:27,530 --> 01:18:25,200
included in a description of one of his

1532
01:18:31,670 --> 01:18:27,540
other books on the back of the book

1533
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:31,680
jacket or in the Flyleaf dr. Reich was

1534
01:18:39,260 --> 01:18:35,280
found dead in his prison cell about a

1535
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:39,270
week before he was due to be discharged

1536
01:18:46,610 --> 01:18:43,410
from prison on parole I know from dr.

1537
01:18:48,860 --> 01:18:46,620
Baker and having spoken with his

1538
01:18:52,010 --> 01:18:48,870
daughter when she was still alive dr.

1539
01:18:55,700 --> 01:18:52,020
Eva Reich that he had completed a

1540
01:18:56,930 --> 01:18:55,710
manuscript for a book that the working

1541
01:18:59,090 --> 01:18:56,940
title was creation

1542
01:19:01,190 --> 01:18:59,100
dr. Baker had read a certain amount of

1543
01:19:04,150 --> 01:19:01,200
it he said it was the most brilliant

1544
01:19:07,420 --> 01:19:04,160
work that he had yet published and that

1545
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:07,430
manuscript not surprisingly was missing

1546
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:11,760
my guess is that the FBI has it and that

1547
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:14,130
it's with you know material that was

1548
01:19:22,210 --> 01:19:17,250
confiscated from Tesla's hotel room when

1549
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:22,220
he passed away in 42 as I recall but

1550
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:26,330
this has been the most compressed

1551
01:19:34,660 --> 01:19:31,130
concise sort of transistorized version

1552
01:19:36,940 --> 01:19:34,670
of dr. reicks life and work for anyone

1553
01:19:40,930 --> 01:19:36,950
interested in reading a serious

1554
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:40,940
biography of dr. Reich and his books can

1555
01:19:50,350 --> 01:19:44,000
be found online the book that I would

1556
01:19:53,170 --> 01:19:50,360
recommend is called fury on earth and it

1557
01:19:56,050 --> 01:19:53,180
was written by dr. Myron sheriff who was

1558
01:19:58,990 --> 01:19:56,060
a student of dr. Reich's and a friend of

1559
01:20:01,060 --> 01:19:59,000
mine it's a very important book a

1560
01:20:04,690 --> 01:20:01,070
powerful biography and will probably

1561
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:04,700
stand as the definitive biography of dr.

1562
01:20:12,250 --> 01:20:08,930
Reich you can find his books used all

1563
01:20:15,310 --> 01:20:12,260
over the place my favorite place one of

1564
01:20:18,910 --> 01:20:15,320
them is a book service called Abe books

1565
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:18,920
that's a biz an Abe Lincoln a B e books

1566
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:22,370
calm although you know Barnes and Noble

1567
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:25,250
Amazon I don't know if any of his books

1568
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:27,440
are in print right now but there are

1569
01:20:33,220 --> 01:20:29,930
more than 20 books that are out there

1570
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:33,230
and new books appearing irregularly as

1571
01:20:39,940 --> 01:20:37,010
the estate is able to call the

1572
01:20:43,780 --> 01:20:39,950
information from the extraordinary

1573
01:20:47,890 --> 01:20:43,790
archive that was basically locked up at

1574
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:47,900
Reich's request for 50 years and opened

1575
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:53,570
it was a ball in Portland Maine and that

1576
01:20:59,800 --> 01:20:57,110
is the basic story and happy to go to

1577
01:21:02,800 --> 01:20:59,810
whatever questions you might have that I

1578
01:21:05,410 --> 01:21:02,810
may be able to answer Gregg absolutely

1579
01:21:06,790 --> 01:21:05,420
man damn that was a great breakdown

1580
01:21:08,140 --> 01:21:06,800
thanks for laying it all out and

1581
01:21:10,180 --> 01:21:08,150
basically walking us through the

1582
01:21:12,910 --> 01:21:10,190
important bullet points in the life of

1583
01:21:15,790 --> 01:21:12,920
dr. Reich we have gone a bit past what

1584
01:21:17,620 --> 01:21:15,800
is the typical half point for one of

1585
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:17,630
these episodes but for the sake of not

1586
01:21:21,700 --> 01:21:19,520
breaking up a good story we'll just end

1587
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:21,710
the free show here and I'll ask you some

1588
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:24,560
questions for the plus side but before

1589
01:21:28,060 --> 01:21:26,690
we do close it out is there anything

1590
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:28,070
else you'd like to tell the people about

1591
01:21:33,919 --> 01:21:30,110
Reich's work or your own or where they

1592
01:21:36,890 --> 01:21:33,929
can follow up with you well just that

1593
01:21:40,130 --> 01:21:36,900
any of your listeners that have found

1594
01:21:43,610 --> 01:21:40,140
our conversation and my rambling here

1595
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:43,620
interesting enough to pursue it go

1596
01:21:49,189 --> 01:21:47,489
online and buy some books by wilhelm

1597
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:49,199
reich you can find used copies for a

1598
01:21:57,169 --> 01:21:52,010
couple of bucks each and read them and

1599
01:22:00,439 --> 01:21:57,179
read them there are occasionally organa

1600
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:00,449
me conferences here and abroad if you're

1601
01:22:06,770 --> 01:22:05,040
able to attend do your welcome to the

1602
01:22:09,169 --> 01:22:06,780
Facebook friend of mine I always post

1603
01:22:12,350 --> 01:22:09,179
what I'm doing I have a very underused

1604
01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:12,360
website which I need to be more involved

1605
01:22:18,020 --> 01:22:15,510
with called peter robbins NY dot-com

1606
01:22:21,530 --> 01:22:18,030
where i will post any relevant

1607
01:22:24,290 --> 01:22:21,540
announcements as well and i think if you

1608
01:22:27,470 --> 01:22:24,300
go on youtube you can find some of my

1609
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:27,480
talks on dr. reich and otherwise i

1610
01:22:31,850 --> 01:22:29,520
really enjoyed having this opportunity

1611
01:22:34,490 --> 01:22:31,860
greg and we look forward to returning

1612
01:22:35,570 --> 01:22:34,500
the show at some future date absolutely

1613
01:22:37,490 --> 01:22:35,580
man i know you've done a lot more

1614
01:22:39,530 --> 01:22:37,500
research in the UFO field we didn't even

1615
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:39,540
really get to touch on but until that

1616
01:22:44,030 --> 01:22:41,730
day take care of yourself out there man

1617
01:22:48,410 --> 01:22:44,040
keep doing what you do thanks again you

1618
01:22:51,979 --> 01:22:48,420
bet alright people wow we did it

1619
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:51,989
a rike show i think the man's worthy of

1620
01:22:57,620 --> 01:22:53,520
it and i think a lot of us know details

1621
01:22:59,090 --> 01:22:57,630
now that we didn't previously free

1622
01:23:00,860 --> 01:22:59,100
listeners might have noticed they got

1623
01:23:02,810 --> 01:23:00,870
over 90 minutes a show because that's

1624
01:23:04,939 --> 01:23:02,820
just how long it took to get through

1625
01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:04,949
Reich's biography and I didn't want to

1626
01:23:09,620 --> 01:23:07,440
cut you guys off in the middle I wasn't

1627
01:23:11,570 --> 01:23:09,630
expecting to only ask one question the

1628
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:11,580
show but Peter was walking through all

1629
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the bullet points I wanted to hit anyway

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so I figured I just let him do his thing

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01:23:19,610 --> 01:23:17,940
so the plus show just became my follow

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01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:19,620
up questions and since I knew I only had

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01:23:24,590 --> 01:23:22,170
time for a couple I went with most of my

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01:23:26,810 --> 01:23:24,600
weirder ones and I am still surprised

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01:23:28,399 --> 01:23:26,820
that Reich's position on our various

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01:23:30,740 --> 01:23:28,409
issues was that they can all be traced

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01:23:32,810 --> 01:23:30,750
back to sexual trauma but he never

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01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:32,820
mentioned circumcision I mean if you're

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01:23:38,209 --> 01:23:34,800
trying to make that case I would think

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01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:38,219
that'd be Exhibit A have you seen a

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01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:41,760
video of a circumcision especially a

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01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:43,530
tradition suus one where the moil

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01:23:47,670 --> 01:23:45,360
actually removes the foreskin with his

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01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,680
mouth you can see it on YouTube

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01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:49,360
I wouldn't have believed it myself

1646
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:52,090
otherwise but hey it may look a little

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01:23:57,420 --> 01:23:55,570
funky but that's what God wants but

1648
01:23:59,220 --> 01:23:57,430
either way I do think Reich was on to

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01:24:01,740 --> 01:23:59,230
some really interesting things just the

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01:24:04,110 --> 01:24:01,750
segment on the cloud Busters and their

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01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:04,120
interactions with the UFOs I think we

1652
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:06,250
have to maybe be able to get some kind

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01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:09,130
of insight from those interactions they

1654
01:24:14,580 --> 01:24:12,010
seem very unique and somewhat telling

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01:24:16,620 --> 01:24:14,590
and maybe we need to build a THC

1656
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:16,630
cloudbuster gun to get to the bottom of

1657
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:19,270
some of that stuff but I love it Peter

1658
01:24:22,530 --> 01:24:21,130
also had mentioned that my saying

1659
01:24:24,630 --> 01:24:22,540
Reich's work had anything to do with

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01:24:26,850 --> 01:24:24,640
alchemy it was a bit of a stretch but I

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01:24:28,860 --> 01:24:26,860
consider alchemy to be completely

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01:24:31,500 --> 01:24:28,870
related to working with the ether and

1663
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:31,510
what is orgone energy is it not just

1664
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:34,290
another name for the same thing so to me

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01:24:39,450 --> 01:24:36,850
harnessing and manipulating energy from

1666
01:24:41,730 --> 01:24:39,460
the fabric of reality is as much alchemy

1667
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:41,740
as anything it's all under the umbrella

1668
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:43,930
of Sciences that were removed from the

1669
01:24:47,700 --> 01:24:46,570
books a long time ago but maybe that's

1670
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:47,710
just how I've been seeing it lately

1671
01:24:53,670 --> 01:24:50,800
that's a big thanks to Peter kicking off

1672
01:24:56,190 --> 01:24:53,680
October in a big way new website coming

1673
01:24:58,830 --> 01:24:56,200
real soon new higher side clothing

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01:25:01,200 --> 01:24:58,840
company coming real soon sign up for

1675
01:25:03,090 --> 01:25:01,210
plus if you like what I do and I'll see

1676
01:25:05,970 --> 01:25:03,100
you guys next week thanks for listening

1677
01:25:08,130 --> 01:25:05,980
that's it for me your move keepers of

1678
01:25:14,810 --> 01:25:08,140
the secret sciences and Oregon obsessed

1679
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:19,970
woke up this morning with light in my

1680
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:24,890
eyes and then realized it was dark

1681
01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:43,739
it was like coming down from the sky

1682
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:47,910
must be those strangers

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01:25:59,960 --> 01:25:53,040
every night whose saucers she's alive

1684
01:26:04,460 --> 01:25:59,970
but people obtain the blue-green

1685
01:26:14,590 --> 01:26:04,470
footprints led love away in the dark I

1686
01:26:30,020 --> 01:26:20,750
mr. spaceman won't you please take me

1687
01:26:32,350 --> 01:26:30,030
along I won't do anything wrong hey mr.

1688
01:26:41,050 --> 01:26:32,360
spaceman

1689
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:45,350
moved up this morning

1690
01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:50,130
feeling quite weird I had a slice in my

1691
01:27:05,580 --> 01:26:58,530
open my window

1692
01:27:15,700 --> 01:27:05,590
wait written my name so long we'll see

1693
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:20,930
won't you please take me along I won't

1694
01:27:38,590 --> 01:27:30,770
mrs. basement

1695
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,520
Hey

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01:27:58,910 --> 01:27:44,390
face man

1697
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:03,600
why don't you please take me along the

1698
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:23,610
take me along the high

1699
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:25,960
hey guys thanks for listening to the

1700
01:28:29,860 --> 01:28:27,530
first hour of the higher side chats

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01:28:31,930 --> 01:28:29,870
podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you

1702
01:28:34,300 --> 01:28:31,940
don't know there is a second hour to all

1703
01:28:36,010 --> 01:28:34,310
the episodes we do around here generally

1704
01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:36,020
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

1705
01:28:39,730 --> 01:28:37,760
topics and ideas that a guest is about

1706
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:39,740
so if you enjoyed what you've heard from

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THC for free consider signing up at the

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second hour of the 5 shows I put

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01:28:51,250 --> 01:28:49,370
together each month I never really

1711
01:28:52,990 --> 01:28:51,260
wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

1712
01:28:54,970 --> 01:28:53,000
but I really hate the idea of spending

1713
01:28:57,070 --> 01:28:54,980
airtime promoting some product that's

1714
01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:57,080
completely unrelated and telling you the

1715
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:58,730
best way to support the show is to buy

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01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:01,520
an audio book or new underwear by mail

1717
01:29:05,740 --> 01:29:03,410
or something crazy like that so instead

1718
01:29:07,330 --> 01:29:05,750
if you like the show double your time

1719
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with it for five bucks a month and let's

1720
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:09,440
cut out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the

1721
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price of a movie ticket and you get at

1722
01:29:15,460 --> 01:29:12,860
least an extra five hours of show a

1723
01:29:17,260 --> 01:29:15,470
month collectively it keeps us stable

1724
01:29:18,850 --> 01:29:17,270
and it frees me from wasting your time

1725
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:18,860
with anything but the show you came to

1726
01:29:23,410 --> 01:29:21,440
listen to it's really the only way for

1727
01:29:25,210 --> 01:29:23,420
an independent one-man show to make it

1728
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:25,220
and I do what I can so that it's worth

1729
01:29:29,410 --> 01:29:27,440
your while since we started this I've

1730
01:29:31,420 --> 01:29:29,420
always tried to use the subscriptions to

1731
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:31,430
improve the podcast and make signups

1732
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:34,010
more advantageous it started with just a

1733
01:29:37,570 --> 01:29:35,930
second hour for the main show but now

1734
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:37,580
we've got a nice forum going where

1735
01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:39,650
people can get deeper in conversation

1736
01:29:44,260 --> 01:29:41,360
about the episodes with other listeners

1737
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:44,270
submit a candidate in the guest request

1738
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:46,490
thread or share their own personal

1739
01:29:50,260 --> 01:29:48,170
projects to get out of the soul-crushing

1740
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:50,270
nine-to-five cog in the wheel life on

1741
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:52,850
the entrepreneurs thread the forum in

1742
01:29:56,230 --> 01:29:54,290
the Plus comments they're always the

1743
01:29:58,450 --> 01:29:56,240
first places I try to go for listener

1744
01:30:00,850 --> 01:29:58,460
engagement but it does get harder as the

1745
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:00,860
show gets more popular because of that

1746
01:30:04,150 --> 01:30:02,690
there's also a direct messaging feature

1747
01:30:06,970 --> 01:30:04,160
that you can use to reach me through the

1748
01:30:08,500 --> 01:30:06,980
plus site also but beyond the forum if

1749
01:30:10,780 --> 01:30:08,510
you like any of the music I've used for

1750
01:30:12,580 --> 01:30:10,790
THC most of it I've hired artists to

1751
01:30:14,830 --> 01:30:12,590
make and I provided all its free

1752
01:30:16,270 --> 01:30:14,840
downloads to plus members too so if you

1753
01:30:18,460 --> 01:30:16,280
like a particular song you've heard

1754
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:18,470
close the show out recently come get the

1755
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:20,810
mp3 I should also mention that if you

1756
01:30:25,180 --> 01:30:22,850
don't like the idea of paying $5

1757
01:30:27,340 --> 01:30:25,190
recurring every month I get that you can

1758
01:30:29,710 --> 01:30:27,350
buy three months six months or a year

1759
01:30:31,450 --> 01:30:29,720
upfront and just be done with it I have

1760
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:31,460
plenty of listeners who send checks and

1761
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:34,010
money orders to the PIO box too I try to

1762
01:30:37,180 --> 01:30:36,110
make it as easy for people as I can and

1763
01:30:39,310 --> 01:30:37,190
you can read more about it on

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01:30:41,830 --> 01:30:39,320
sign up page also be sure to check out

1765
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:41,840
the FAQ help page on the plus side if

1766
01:30:45,340 --> 01:30:43,520
you have any questions or concerns about

1767
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:45,350
how to listen to a password-protected

1768
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:47,690
show on your devices I've highlighted a

1769
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:49,850
lot of great solutions and one of those

1770
01:30:54,550 --> 01:30:51,890
would be the iPhone app that just

1771
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:54,560
recently hit the Apple App Store a super

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01:30:58,420 --> 01:30:56,690
kind and talented listener made it for

1773
01:31:00,160 --> 01:30:58,430
us and you can use it to stream or

1774
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:00,170
download either the free or the plus

1775
01:31:05,620 --> 01:31:02,690
show if you're on Android I'd use pocket

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01:31:08,050 --> 01:31:05,630
casts or podcast addict and subscribe to

1777
01:31:10,330 --> 01:31:08,060
the feed manually that way I also try to

1778
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:10,340
throw an occasional bonus shows or QA

1779
01:31:14,830 --> 01:31:12,290
shows and I've got a few other weird

1780
01:31:16,750 --> 01:31:14,840
ideas I might get to try out soon but I

1781
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:16,760
give you all I can for 5 bucks and I

1782
01:31:20,140 --> 01:31:18,410
hope you'll at least give it a shot if

1783
01:31:21,910 --> 01:31:20,150
you've listened to a few free shows and

1784
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:21,920
you find them unique or valuable I know

1785
01:31:25,660 --> 01:31:23,690
there's a lot of podcasts out there and

1786
01:31:27,820 --> 01:31:25,670
I'm just one of them but if you have any

1787
01:31:29,590 --> 01:31:27,830
questions concerns or comments about any

1788
01:31:31,810 --> 01:31:29,600
of this please get in touch with us at

1789
01:31:34,510 --> 01:31:31,820
the higher side Chad's team at gmail.com

1790
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:34,520
I also wanted to plug the higher side

1791
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:35,930
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1792
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:37,760
totally free for anyone who wants to

1793
01:31:42,130 --> 01:31:40,010
sign up at the main Internet web site

1794
01:31:44,260 --> 01:31:42,140
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1795
01:31:46,060 --> 01:31:44,270
you can also get on that email list

1796
01:31:48,370 --> 01:31:46,070
through the higher side chats Facebook

1797
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:48,380
page there's a button there as well but

1798
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:49,850
the reason I'm doing this is because I

1799
01:31:54,220 --> 01:31:52,370
get tons and tons of emails after a show

1800
01:31:56,350 --> 01:31:54,230
goes up asking me about how I feel about

1801
01:31:57,910 --> 01:31:56,360
a particular guest or topic and the

1802
01:31:59,830 --> 01:31:57,920
wrap-up isn't always the best place to

1803
01:32:01,870 --> 01:31:59,840
do that especially if I have anything

1804
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:01,880
negative to say sometimes the dust needs

1805
01:32:06,220 --> 01:32:03,770
to settle sometimes they need to hear

1806
01:32:07,810 --> 01:32:06,230
feedback from you guys first there are a

1807
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:07,820
lot of factors but I usually have

1808
01:32:11,860 --> 01:32:09,410
something to communicate to you and I

1809
01:32:12,370 --> 01:32:11,870
just don't get to do it so on the first

1810
01:32:14,020 --> 01:32:12,380
of the month

1811
01:32:15,670 --> 01:32:14,030
I plan to send out a little newsletter

1812
01:32:17,740 --> 01:32:15,680
with my thoughts about the five shows

1813
01:32:19,780 --> 01:32:17,750
the previous month and talk to you about

1814
01:32:22,150 --> 01:32:19,790
anything else that's on my mind or

1815
01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:22,160
that's going on and what's probably most

1816
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:24,080
enticing is that I'm gonna give you some

1817
01:32:28,030 --> 01:32:25,730
insight into at least one guest I have

1818
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:28,040
coming up in the month which people have

1819
01:32:32,260 --> 01:32:30,050
been begging for some posted schedule

1820
01:32:34,209 --> 01:32:32,270
for a long time I personally think I'd

1821
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:34,219
like the surprise but sign up for the

1822
01:32:37,510 --> 01:32:36,050
higher side newsletter it's free it

1823
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:37,520
comes out on the first of the month and

1824
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:39,170
I won't waste your time with any other

1825
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:41,930
emails and that's it I appreciate you

1826
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:43,610
listening I try to give alternative

1827
01:32:48,130 --> 01:32:45,770
ideas and guess a fair shake on a high

1828
01:32:50,709 --> 01:32:48,140
quality podcast expose some deep level

1829
01:32:52,330 --> 01:32:50,719
conspiracies without the yelling and

1830
01:32:53,950 --> 01:32:52,340
I hope to offer some inspiration that

1831
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:53,960
even though the system relentlessly

1832
01:32:58,060 --> 01:32:55,610
suggests you should follow their

1833
01:32:59,770 --> 01:32:58,070
blueprint to mediocrity you can do your

1834
01:33:02,140 --> 01:32:59,780
own thing and live a much happier life

1835
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:02,150
despite all the negativity in the world